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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp
    The base gives it a weak presence on Broadway.
    The base looks awful. Way too low and out of proportion with the rest of the building.

    This is an example of where good intending zoning rules (requiring a certain height before setback on Broadway to create a streetwall) end up creating a really bad looking streetwall.

    The rest of the building I like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macreator
    The base looks awful. Way too low and out of proportion with the rest of the building. This is an example of where good intending zoning rules (requiring a certain height before setback on Broadway to create a streetwall) end up creating a really bad looking streetwall.
    I know, right? It seems like almost every building going up have to have that base now.

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    That particular setback configuration is not a zoning requirement.

    It was done that way to maximize retail and minimize the apartments over the street on Broadway, which are less marketable than those in the tower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp
    That particular setback configuration is not a zoning requirement.

    It was done that way to maximize retail and minimize the apartments over the street on Broadway, which are less marketable than those in the tower.
    My mistake -- I assumed it was a zoning requirement as it seems every other building on Broadway in the area has a similar looking base. The economics of it make sense though.

    I still stand by my opinion of the base being totally awful though

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    The base is pretty awful looking...

    Any talk yet about the retail going into those spaces?

    BTW: There has been an update to the building´s website and it is a must see....new renderings of a penthouse interior:

    www.15cpw.com

    Click on the menu "the building", a submenu appears, click on "residences" .... and watch the slide show ( or clic the arrow). The last three images are new and drop-dead spectacular.
    Last edited by Fabrizio; January 18th, 2006 at 09:00 AM.

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    FEBRUARY 5, 2006


    A New York classic rises...


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    Bonus shot: I've always loved this nearby entrance to Central Park...


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    I walked up there yesterday and it's already changing the look of Broadway (for the better)---even the low height on Broadway creates a distinct street-wall together with the buildings further north.

    Vacant lots suck, and that was a prominent vacant lot for far too long.

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    Central Park in snow and 15 Central Park West on 12 February 2006.


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    Central Park West's new landmark rising


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    Here is a rendering of the Broadway street level from the Stern website that I haven't seen before on 15cpw.com.

    This building will be a great addition no matter how you look at it. Wish some other buildings going up were crafted so well.



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    yeah, the limestone will look terrific.

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    Look at those big retail spaces! You can be sure some major national chains will be moving in on that block of Broadway.

    The street-level facade is nicer than expected, but some sort of finishing gesture on the cornice would have been nice to see. An affected mansard roof, perhaps? Right now the cornice line seems far too abrupt.

    Actually it could have been quite majestic if it were, perhaps, 2/3rds taller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by czsz
    The street-level facade is nicer than expected, but some sort of finishing gesture on the cornice would have been nice to see. An affected mansard roof, perhaps? Right now the cornice line seems far too abrupt.

    Actually it could have been quite majestic if it were, perhaps, 2/3rds taller.
    That's right, the streetwall's not high enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by czsz
    Look at those big retail spaces! You can be sure some major national chains will be moving in on that block of Broadway.
    How about the city's first Walmart!

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    I wonder how much setback rules contribute to that low streetwall. They must have used it to compensate for the bulk of the tower elsewhere.

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