Red Sox v. Yankees

[hbcat]

Originally Posted by JCMAN320

... [Ortiz] then slumps like crazy-admits using steroids in the same Stadium where his jersey was buried. ...Karmas a bitch!

Uh, we're not going to re-hash the whole 'roids thing ad nauseum, are we? Boston is no more guilty than other teams when it comes to substance use and abuse. Hundreds of players from every team (along with free agents between teams) have dabbled in PEDs for decades (cf. Jim Bouton's Ball Four, 1970).

The Commissioner & owners are at least as culpable as the players for the Steroid Era. All the suits cared about after the 1994 Strike was getting fannies into seats, even if that meant freakish stats and "athletes" who looked to be at home in the WWE as much as in pro baseball.

Wait,

Enough! enough! enough!
Somehow I have been stunn'd. Stand back!
Give me a little time beyond my cuff'd head, slumbers, dreams, gaping,
I discover myself on the verge of a usual mistake.
-- Walt Whitman, "Song of Myself," 1855, 1881.

I see I myself am discussing the Steroid Era, ad nauseum.

I think baseball is policing the drug problem now, and it's probably best to move on.

Steroid Era, begone!

"A good riddance of bad rubbish!" -- Charles Dickens, Dombey and Son, 1848.

"Play ball!" -- Abner Doubleday, 1849.

"Now, on to Number 28!!!!" -- Joe Girardi, attributed, Nov. 4, 2009.

"Uh, I got the 'in 5 or 6' part right, didn't I?" -- Jimmy Rollins, text message to Derek Jeter, Nov 5, 2009.

"Re-sign Matsui now!!!" -- general acclamation, October-November, 2009.

[JCMAN320]

Lol I was just using it as a fun poke thats all. I'm not looking to talk steroids; just a joke.

[NYatKNIGHT]

My office is 20 floors above route - I have NEVER seen a crowd like this, it's absolute hysteria and the parade hasn't even started yet. Church St is closed and packed with people, and they can't even see anything from there. Best spot I've seen so far is from the top of a garbage truck on one of the side streets. Cops were getting them down from there at first but apparently said screw it.

[hbcat]

^^^ Can you post pics for us?

[lofter1]

Originally Posted by NYatKNIGHT

My office is 20 floors above route - I have NEVER seen a crowd like this ...

There's a whole generation of fans who weren't old enough to join in for the last festivities.

And think how NYC has changed, both physically and mentally, since they took the title in 2000 ...

[ZippyTheChimp]

I was at Mudville 9 on Chambers St off W Broadway early this morning. Boomer Esiason & Carton WFAN were broadcasting from there 6-10AM, but they had to move to the studio for technical reasons.The bar was packed at 8AM with a line outside. Stayed that way all day. Chambers St was closed from West Broadway.

Never saw it like this.

[JCMAN320]

Unfortunately I couldn't attend; just started a new job and there was no way my boss would let me off. I did watch it on the comp though. Zippy do you think this was larger and more festive than the Giants parade, which I did attend?

In terms of what seems like people apprecitating and savoring it more; I can attest to that. During '01-'09 alot changed for a Yankee fan after the Dynasty run.

In 2001 9/11 just happened and NY's flagship team gets to the WS where their Dynasty ends; you have the start of the Angels becoming the Yankees nemisis 2002; the Marlins winning the WS at Yankee Stadium in 2003; the Red Sox breaking the Curse of the Bambino in 2004; 3 years of first round elimination ('05, '06, '07), Joe Torre being fired along with the Red Sox winning the WS again in 2007 ; missing the playoffs for the first time in 13 years and closing Yankee Stadium in 2008; and the opening of a new Yankee Stadium in 2009.

I know that the Yankees have had their droughts, especially the '80s-early '90s; but with the dynasty ending, the Red Sox breaking the curse, and a new Stadium along with everything I listed was alot for a Yankee fan to take in right after 5 years of unfathomable success.

[lofter1]

The partying on the streets started early this morning (by the sound of some folks below my windows early today, the merry making may have started on Wednesday night and continued non-stop). Every place I went today (Midtown, Times Square, Greenwich Village, Soho) there were Yankee outfits everywhere. At least one Modell's on 42nd Street was mobbed. Plus lots of folks being loud and having fun. Sometimes too much for their own good. Tonight things have quieted down. Seems everybody is sleeping it off now.

[kz1000ps]

Question: so I got into the city Wed night during the sixth inning and was in the LES when they won, and yet the place was silent afterwards. I had my camera out, set to the video function, waiting to throw the windows open and document the anarchy, but nothing happened save for a few tame horn honks and some shouting. Ten minutes later and it was dead, as if it were any other Wednesday night. And around 1 AM we went out for food and I got the same impression.

So where was the action? Does the LES just have too many transplants? Too hipsterish? Or was I just on the wrong block (around Clinton and Houston)...?

I'm used to Boston, where the city goes into DEFCON 1 every time a team wins, even in the outer neighborhoods.

[scumonkey]

You should have been in times square- what a nightmare!

[hbcat]

Some vids for those of us unable to attend the celebrations in NYC:

From The New York Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT3nRFIMtiw

From the AP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxs9mREGjmg

The rest are amateur vids from fans -- more fun.

Think Blair Witch meets Pride of the Yankees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HD6UPH0jvI

Subway shots, crowds scenes along route.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCm2Mkb87w

A vid within a vid -- kinda captures my sense of distance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXpklqXeXUw

From up above. There's got to be a player down there somewhere...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5djFCA-XKQ

A montage with before and after shots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXxKbUMc55M

View from Trinity Church:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLtLbGzt62k

"Move outta the way!!" There's always somebody in the way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hcY4IodXZI

Clean-up Time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfwRdmYxjh0

[antinimby]

I was there yesterday. Since I got there right around the time the parade was suppose to start (11 AM), I obviously didn't get close to see the action. Every street leading to Broadway and surrounding City Hall was closed off by the cops. I was very disappointed of course but I understood.

There was a lot of people but since I've never went to one of these before, I have nothing to judge yesterday's crowd with so couldn't tell you if it was more than usual.

I did notice that the crowd was generally very young. A lot of them looked like they were skipping out from school. Another was that the normal Wall Street/office worker crowd was not very visible. Maybe they were holed up inside?

In any case, unless one plans on staking out a good, up-close spot hours in advance, you're better off watching it on T.V.

It was a lot fun though even without being able to see any of the players. The fans were very raucous but civilized and without the rowdiness these type of crowds can get.

Sorry, I don't have any pics to share (at least not anything interesting anyway).

Let's repeat next year.

#28!

[antinimby]

The Empire State lit up in Yankee colors Thursday night...


cboyle23

[hbcat]

^^^^ Thanks for the report and photo, antinimby. The youtube link I posted, "Move outta the way!," amused me. It looks like everyone was having fun, especially those who weren't hell-bent on getting as close to the action as possible. I'd have gone, even without hope of getting near the parade, if I were in the city. I like festive crowds.

Spring training starts in, what is it, about two weeks, right? Maybe the playoffs can be stretched deeper into November next season and fill in some of this dead air time!

P.S. I am still amazed by Matsui. Hope he gets re-signed. Yeah, I know, I know -- he probably will need to DH full-time again, but he makes up for it in the playoffs. Plus: if NY doesn't ink him again, what Japanese star do they have lined up to cater to the audience in Japan and Taiwan (hope Wang comes back too!)?