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bobby fletcher
April 25th, 2006, 05:39 PM
Since March, Epoch Times NY, operated by Falun Dafa Association of New York, have been promoting a "China Auschwitz" concentration camp story in anticipation of Chinese leader's stateside visit:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Sujiatun+Auschwitz

This well-timed political indictment has since been discredited:

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2006&m=April&x=20060416141157uhyggep0.5443231&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html

(and in response Epoch simply replied "Auschwitz vanished into thin air")

While China's human rights issues should be examined, making up story by stringing up unrelated facts and writing allegory of "Schindler's List" isn't the way. Not only has FLG NY discredited their cause, they have disrespected the Jewish people's suffering by taking the Holocaust in vain.

Last time I visited NY I noticed FLG people flogging eachother in front of the mall by Central Park. If anyone is keen on letting them know their story's been outted, please do me this favor.

I personally do not agree with Chinese government's crack-down, but IMO "Auschwitz" is going too far.

Thanks,

stache
April 25th, 2006, 11:18 PM
I genuinely feel sorry for these people, but I am glad they are giving it a rest in Manhattan this year. It was just too much, they were everywhere.

bobby fletcher
May 3rd, 2006, 04:33 AM
Here's Dr. Wang Wenyi and her link to the "Sujiatun Auschwitz" haox: Dr. Wang is the lead researcher for Epoch Times NY's conveniently timed "Sujiatun Auschwitz" allegation that has since being discredited.

Given Dr. Wang's profession as a pathologist, and New York's recent string of grisly illegal cadaver organ harvesting (http://www.google.com/search?q=Michael+Mastromarino+New+York+PVC+body+pa rts) cases, it's not hard to see how that could have pushed an already fragile psyche weakened by cultish political teaching, over the edge.

She basically put two and two together and rehashed the 1970's era anti-communist tall tale of people sentenced to vivisection.

Juna
May 11th, 2006, 06:25 PM
http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-4-24/40788.html

Falun Gong practitioners are being systematically killed for their organs in labor and concentration camps across China. This is the message that Dr. Wenyi Wang wanted the world to know when she broke protocol and stopped Hu Jintao's speech at the White House on April 20. While the world's media has focused on her act of civil disobedience, the accumulating evidence pointing towards atrocities, which led Wang to her desperate act, has thus far been largely ignored – with a few significant exceptions.



Falun Gong practitioners never lie.

BrooklynRider
May 11th, 2006, 11:21 PM
If the US Government is claiming there is no systemic torture and abuse, then the facts will probably bear out that there is widespread torture, abuse and cover-up.

stache
May 12th, 2006, 09:14 AM
Some of the bodies on exhibit at the Seaport may have been Falun Gong practitioners.

Ninjahedge
May 12th, 2006, 10:15 AM
Juna, Glad(?) to see you back?

Now if you would be so kind as to link to something ELSE besides the Epoch Times to get a more balanced view of what you are saying rather than taking PR snippets and pasting them on here with a link to a propagandist website, maybe we would have more than a passing curiosity as to what you are claiming.

But the mere fact that all you do is copy-paste the same thing again and again does not lead any of us to believe you are actually a free-thinking individual concerned with a cause, but more just another puppet being pulled on the same strings as many others.

Take this commentary to heart and try to process, rather than memorize, what FG is telling you. What is the harm in that?

BrooklynRider
May 12th, 2006, 11:43 AM
I've got to agree with Ninjahedge on this one. My thoughts and opinions certainly weren't derived from Juna's posts, which refuse to engage in a meaningful and candid discourse.

ryan
May 12th, 2006, 12:29 PM
The Falun Gong are just another extremist religious group - as intolerant and conformist as Mormons. It's terrible that they're being persecuted, but they're not saints.

bobby fletcher
May 12th, 2006, 02:00 PM
It's just Falun Gong's luck that, out of all the hospitals in China, they had to pick one that does accupuncture and Chinese medicine, not western surgery.

The hospital Epoch Times accused is a joint venture with a company affaliated with the Malaysian government:

http://crc.gov.my/clinicalTrial/documents/Proposal/TCM_Stroke%20TrialProtocol%20synopsis.pdf

Malay officials have visited the clinic in past years. I for one have never heard of death camps advertising for foreign investment and official visit.

Juna
May 13th, 2006, 04:25 PM
The International Society for Human Rights (IGFM) honored the German edition of The Epoch Times—Die Neue Epoche —with a special media prize for its "extensive and regular reporting" about violations of human rights in China. The presentation took place last weekend during the annual general meeting of the IGFM in Königstein am Taunus, Germany.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-5-10/41381.html


I think this is a award from justice for Epochtimes.

Juna
May 16th, 2006, 11:42 AM
There is a new market. In the market, living human beings are being sold. The target customer for this service is anyone from anywhere in the world. These tradees are usually approaching a dead end in their lives. As long as they have money to afford it, the staff of the organ supermarket will help them find whatever they want.
Because this kind of organ trading of living human beings is prohibited and illegal in any country that has a belief in morals and Gods, the people in this business conduct secret trading. Their relatives are not even aware of their business. The trading often occurs in basements and at night. Because of their fast service, a lot of business flows rapidly to the organ supermarket. In this market, the most popular living beings are Falun Gong practitioners. It is said that their bodies are very strong and healthy because they practice Falun Gong. Since 2000, the business has increased significantly. Nobody knows where the market has been able to get such an ample supply of live organs, although the traders and sellers at the organ supermarket are secretly doing such inhuman business. It is said that no living being who are chosen for the organ supermarket can escape it; even the staff members inside the market will become victims in the end.


http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-5-14/41560.html

The world should not keep silence while the evildoers killing innocent people.

Ninjahedge
May 16th, 2006, 12:44 PM
Does this woman even listen to us? Or is she using this board as a blind sounding board for Epoch?

I don't even read her stuff anymore, I just look to see if she linked, yet again, another EpochTimes article. :P

Schadenfrau
May 16th, 2006, 01:14 PM
Way to make Falun Gong totally not look like a cult, Juna.

ZippyTheChimp
May 16th, 2006, 03:13 PM
Enough of this.