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Brooklyn67
March 15th, 2005, 04:14 PM
MTA Fails to Pass Subway Photo Ban (http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/transportation/nyc-foto0315,0,7681851.story?coll=nyc-manheadlines-trans)
Joshua Robin - New York Newsday - March 14 2005

Ten months after the MTA first warned photographers to prepare to keep their lenses covered when descending into the subway, the agency board has not passed its controversial ban on unauthorized photography. Metropolitan Transportation Authority officials said the hold-up is the result of an outpouring of criticism about the move, which would offer exemptions to working photojournalists but give police wide latitude in limiting even the most innocent souvenir-taker from clicking away.

"It's in limbo," said Paul Fleuranges, a spokesman for NYC Transit. "In light of the public's comments, it's being reviewed."

Fleuranges anticipated the MTA's full board, which must approve the ban, would not vote before its April meeting. Concerned about terrorism, the MTA first proposed the ban in May 2004 as part of a larger change of transit rules that would also prohibit walking between cars while a train is in motion. MTA officials have defended the photo ban as a way to ward off would-be terrorists from canvasing targets. But the Police Department and Mayor Michael Bloomberg have disputed the need for so broad a ban, and they asked instead for it to be made illegal to photograph sensitive transit equipment. Also lined up against the ban are riders groups and professional photographers, who would have to obtain a permit before taking a picture.

"Subway cars function as people's living room, so you see things that are very private that appear right in front of your eyes," said Camilo José Vergara, whose photographs were published last year in the book "Subway Memories" (Monacelli Press). "If you are a photographer, that's what you do." Vergara and others said that even if the ban were to be approved, it is unlikely that it could be uniformly enforced. "They don't have enough cops," he said.

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TLOZ Link5
March 15th, 2005, 04:55 PM
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!

Gulcrapek
March 15th, 2005, 04:57 PM
Goodie. But does this mean the end of Zippy's Screw the MTA! series?

NewYorkYankee
March 15th, 2005, 08:20 PM
I'm glad, I hated watching my back when taking pictures in the subway.

ZippyTheChimp
March 15th, 2005, 10:04 PM
Goodie. But does this mean the end of Zippy's Screw the MTA! series?
I like to think that Screw the MTA! helped defeat the measure.

I was ready to let bygones be bygones, but then the MTa pulled this:



CBS 2 - New York News | cbsnewyork.com (http://cbsnewyork.com/)


New Brooklyn Bagel Shop In Trouble With MTA

Shop Does Not Want To Pay Royalties
Mar 14, 2005 5:37 pm US/Eastern

A newly opened Brooklyn bagel shop is in deep trouble with the Metropolitan Transit Authority. The MTA says F-line Bagels is out-of-line and off-track.

Brothers Faried and Fowad Assad left out few details in decorating their Brooklyn bagel shop like a subway.

“Its called F-line bagels because we are right underneath the F-line,” says Faried Assad.

And F-line Bagels has been serving straphangers and the Carroll Gardens community for only six weeks.

But this is the story, last week they received a visit and then a letter from an MTA lawyer telling them to cease-and- desist from using the F-line symbol and any subway memorabilia because of trademark and intellectual property infringement.

“I said are we in some kind of trouble he said yes. The MTA needs money. He said it three times. We need the money. We need money,’ said Faried Assad.

MTA spokesman Tom Kelly says F-line Bagels is going to have to put up some dough.

"This is something that's not right and we intend to sue. There are people who pay for the rights to use our insignias. The money goes into the MTA treasury where it is sorely needed," says Kelly.

“We didn't think they were going to bother us because we are just like a small little shop on the corner,” says Assad.

The shop makes only $8,000 dollars a week. They say they can't afford to pay any royalties.

“If we can meet in the middle, I don't know. I really don't know what to do. I guess we're going to pay the price for it,” says Assad.

Fowad spent over a thousand dollars on subway memorabilia off the MTA's website. The Assad's grew up in this neighborhood and thought they were taking some pride in the subway.

But the Assad's wrote back to the MTA and are still hoping it gives them a pass.


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mkeit
March 16th, 2005, 10:26 AM
Now if they can work on NJT. I was stopped last may by an NJT cop in JC when photograping HBLR.

They refuse to give me a photo permit, since I an not a professional photographer. Being a non-terrorist citizen is not enough.

Ninjahedge
March 16th, 2005, 12:30 PM
It is incredibly stupid.

It will not prevent anything and is makes life harder for people AND police.


As for the bagel shop, MTA should back off, especially seeing how they paid THEM for the memorabelia that is decorating the shop.


What I want to know is how the HELL can they license a public systems insignia? It is the letter F in an orange circle!

I have said this before, I want to make a company whose logo is the wort "it" in Times New Roman. Anyone wanting to use "it" would have to pay for "it".

:P

mkeit
March 17th, 2005, 04:43 PM
The MTA has a lot of lawyers on staff and they need something to do.