The Old 7 WTC

[emmeka]

The old 7 WTC was great, i really did like it. It wasnt anything spectacular but it kinda went with the towers although it was not of the same style.

Wasnt it a seperate attack? something to do with fuel in the building and it was lit so that it would fall as well?

Its sad that it gets overlooked really, no one ever mentions it.

[BrooklynRider]

It was a monstrous ugly wall. *That was one I was praying would fall.

[emmeka]

I respect your opinion.

[Chicagoan]

Quote: from BrooklynRider on 10:33 am on July 10, 2003
It was a monstrous ugly wall. *That was one I was praying would fall.


With all due respect, 9/11 has taught us nothing about wishing destruction on buildings. I mean most people in my profession, hated the WTC towers. And many polls showed them as among the towers most people would like to see gone. Now they are, in such a horrible fashion, and yet we still cannot learn from that.

I too disliked the old WTC 7, but never wished destruction it, so as the Met Life ( nee Pan Am) and such.

But Emmeka is correct. There were many buildings that were destroyed that day, the two towers, three low-rise "pavilion" buildings, a 20-some story hotel, and WTC7.

Let us not forget!

[Harmonicaman]

Emmeka - *The 7 WTC building collapsed at about 5:30 on 9/11/01. *Its collapse is thought to be the direct result of burning fuel oil which damaged "transfer strusses" which were an important part of the buildings structural integrity. *Almost 50,000 gallons of fuel oil was stored there so that in the event of a power outage generators could supply power to the city's emergency response center and other critical government offices located at 7 WTC.

When these fuel oil bunkers were compromised, they flooded the entire sub-basement areas with fuel oil which fed the fires that burned for several weeks following the WTC collapse.

Please don't buy into the psycho-babble myths prevalent on the web that there was any purposeful "plan" to collapse 7 WTC. *That's just silly!

Here's a crackpot website with some outrageous "9/11 conspiracy" Bozo flux and other hysterical nonsense:

http://www.baltech.org/lederman/giuliani-wtc-collapse-3-01-02.html

(Edited by Harmonicaman at 11:11 am on July 10, 2003)

[StevenRosenow]

Quote: from Chicagoan on 10:39 am on July 10, 2003

With all due respect, 9/11 has taught us nothing about wishing destruction on buildings. I mean most people in my profession, hated the WTC towers. And many polls showed them as among the towers most people would like to see gone. Now they are, in such a horrible fashion, and yet we still cannot learn from that.

I too disliked the old WTC 7, but never wished destruction it, so as the Met Life ( nee Pan Am) and such.

But Emmeka is correct. There were many buildings that were destroyed that day, the two towers, three low-rise "pavilion" buildings, a 20-some story hotel, and WTC7.

Let us not forget!


Uhm. Which profession are you in?! That's the first blatant case I've ever heard of that states "The World Trade Center should be gone."

Especially since everything I've ever read about the World Trade Center deems the entire project a success, and how many New Yorkers came to appreciate it.

No offense, but I'm really getting sick of all of this "The Twin Towers should never have been built" talk.

And as for the original Seven World Trade... I found it to be an extraordinarily beautiful building. Its architecture and design were simply stunning against the World Trade Center complex itself.

[billyblancoNYC]

Wow, I never knew that the gov't blew up the WTC. *Fascinating. *AND that the gov't, FBI, CIA, etc. kept records in NYC, not Washington, without having backup documents. *Silly. *(re: Baltech.com)

[Chicagoan]

Uhm. Which profession are you in?! That's the first blatant case I've ever heard of that states "The World Trade Center should be gone."

It would have been helpful if you read and understood what I wrote. For your information, I am in Architecture. There were many polls of architects that showed the WTC was one of the most hated buildings. It was criticised for being banal and not contributing anything architecturally. Moreover there were plenty New Yorkers who hated the building and it would sometimed be in the top 10 of buildings that Architects and New Yorkers hated and would wished gone. If this is the first you have heard of this then you must be one of those that got onto the WTC bandwagon after 9/11.


Especially since everything I've ever read about the World Trade Center deems the entire project a success, and how many New Yorkers came to appreciate it.

That is beside the point. Financial success has nothing to do with aesthetics. Trump Tower is very successfull but many people, knowing this hate the way it looks nonetheless.


No offense, but I'm really getting sick of all of this "The Twin Towers should never have been built" talk.

Why should I be offended. I was one of those people who loved those structures when I first read about them in the third grade. But despite what I feel about them aesthetically, I respect others opinion not to like them.


And as for the original Seven World Trade... I found it to be an extraordinarily beautiful building. Its architecture and design were simply stunning against the World Trade Center complex itself.

Well good for you! But you cannot expect YOUR OPINION to be respected by others if you cannot do the same for them. Remenber it is YOUR OPINION. Take it to heart and remember what that means.

Respectfully...

[dbhstockton]

And as for the original Seven World Trade... I found it to be an extraordinarily beautiful building. Its architecture and design were simply stunning against the World Trade Center complex itself.

Mr Rosenow, If I remember from earlier posts, you've never been to New York. *If you had been, you probably would not have noticed 7 WTC. *Don't kid yourself. *

It certainly never made any impression on me --favorable or unfavorable-- the countless times I walked past it. *

[Kris]

It had a neat skybridge. That's about it.

[Gulcrapek]

The bridge was my favorite feature. I even included it in my lego model.

I also liked the base's glass and the way it glimmered and seemed somehow inviting.

[emmeka]

Oh Yeah. the bridge was great!

I keep building bits of new york in lego but the only problem is that I like to get them so exact that I use up all of the bricks on 1 building. All I have at the moment is the statue of liberty (is really good by the way) the twin towers and the top half of 1585 broadway.

[Jack Ryan]

The one thing that I remember about 7 W.T.C. is that it had this undulating, wave-like design sculpted into it's brown marble wall at street level. The "waves" were as smooth as glass while the rest of the wall was rough. Reflections could be seen in the waves and nowhere else. Thats about it. Nothing else really impressed me too much. *

[Freedom Tower]

Where exaclty was the skybridge? I too have seen the waves in the wall of the building, but never the skybridge. I guess I never looked hard enough.

[Jack Ryan]

The bridge spanned Vesey Street north from the W.T.C. complex proper. It was tubular and the bottom half was like a huge convex mirror. You could stand there and look up to see the traffic coming from the east AND west. Come to think of it, that bridge really was cool.

[ZippyTheChimp]

How could you notice this...
http://www.kasubaworks.com/works52_85/images/b_wtc_col.jpg

...and miss this?
http://www.greatgridlock.net/NYC_Images/654.jpg

How about that generous sidewalk?

[Freedom Tower]

Zippy, thats a good question. I don't even know the answer to it. ;)

[Jack Ryan]

*And a Calder to boot!

[emmeka]

well, I really study buildings, even if im just passing one i notice stuff. I loved that part of the building the waves made it more interesting and the skybridge, youd never miss that!