Guess the Location: Official Thread

[AtlanticaC5]

The Fred F. French Building on Fifth Avenue?

[ZippyTheChimp]

Similar brick, but different base.

Adaptive reuse of an industrial building.

[lofter1]

UWS -- a couple of doors to the west of The Ansonia?

[ManhattanKnight]

Sofia Apartments (originally Kent Automatic Parking Garage) 43 West 61st St (Columbus Ave.) Jardine, Hill & Murdock, 1929-30.

[ZippyTheChimp]

Another one for ManhattanKnight.

Across the street from Fordham University, home to the College Board since its renovation in the early 80s.

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4361/sofia01cy0.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sofia01cy0.jpg) http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6000/sofia02ej1.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sofia02ej1.jpg) http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9906/sofia03qa0.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sofia03qa0.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7233/sofia04tk8.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sofia04tk8.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9549/sofia05zq7.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sofia05zq7.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9862/sofia06bl3.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sofia06bl3.jpg) http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7127/sofia07zt4.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sofia07zt4.jpg) http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2999/sofia08wl5.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sofia08wl5.jpg)

Old NY Times article:

May 25, 1984

ABOUT REAL ESTATE; AN ART DECO WAREHOUSE BECOMES A CONDOMINIUM

By LEE A. DANIELS

For nearly 50 years, before the development of the Lincoln Center area of Manhattan, the facade of the Sofia Brothers warehouse at Columbus Avenue and West 61st Street - despite the building's utilitarian purpose - reflected the self-conscious sense of elegance that characterized some of the West Side's best-known apartment buildings.

That was because the Sofia building, constructed as an automated parking facility, was built in an understated but still striking Art Deco style - the eclectic design movement that expressed the exuberance and optimism of high society in the 1920's.

Now the building, which was designated a city landmark last year, is being renovated into a mixed-use condominium of 185,000 square feet.

Its transformation, a joint venture of Aaron Green Companies and British Land of America, exemplifies both the continuing allure of the Art Deco style and the demand for luxury housing on Manhattan's West Side.

When finished early next year, the Sofia's 27 stories will contain, besides the lobby, a nine-floor office condominium of 65,000 square feet - already purchased by the College Board, the national educational services organization - and 17 residential floors containing 94 apartments.

Prices for the apartments, which range from 580 to 2,200 square feet, have been set at about $350 a square foot, putting their cost from less than $200,000 to about $1.5 million.

The address of the $40 million development is 43 West 61st Street. It is just across Columbus Avenue from the Lincoln Center campus of Fordham University. Alvin Preiss Inc. is the sales agent. Three New York City architectural firms are involved in the project: Allan Lapidus; Rothzeid, Kaiserman, Thomson & Bee, and Abraham Rothenberg Associates.

During an interview in his office, Mr. Green said the building became available when the Sofia family decided it had outlived its usefulness as a warehouse.

While they were in the process of selling the building, the New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission began considering it for landmark status. Both buyer and seller supported its landmark designation.

''We all had a common goal,'' Mr. Green said, ''in that we felt it could be readapted and still meet the landmark requirements. For us the coming landmark designation was a valuable part of what we purchased, because we bought not only a plot of land and a building but a style that won't be duplicated again.''

Although the Sofia's ornamention is spare, the style Mr. Green referred to is exemplified by its two-story main entrance on Columbus Avenue. It is faced with multicolored terra cotta and is elaborately decorated. Its vaguely Aztec motif is mirrored in the decoration that caps the crenelated parapets of the roof and the setbacks at the 16th, 23d and 26th floors.

The landmarks commission has allowed the developers to expand the relatively spare windows of the Columbus Avenue facade and to put windows into the West 61st Street facade after determining that their design ''embodies both a clear reflection of its new use as an apartment building and a sensitive interpretation of the Art Deco style.''

Mr. Preiss said the developers' hope was ''to renovate the building as if it were a brand-new 1930's building, one whose apartments contain the latest luxury features but whose vocabulary harks back to the days when Art Deco was in vogue.''

He said that vocabulary would be evident in the lobby of terrazo tiled floors, wood paneling and Art Deco furniture and in the use of marble in the kitchens and master bathrooms.

The apartments comprise 21 studios, 30 one-bedroom, 40 two-bedroom and 3 three-bedroom units. Twenty of the apartments have terraces, and 10 are duplexes.

Among the two-bedroom apartments are the duplex penthouses of 2,000 and 2,200 square feet. One penthouse, facing west, has a terrace of more than 1,000 square feet; the other, facing east, has a terrace of 2,300 square feet.

Apartments at the Sofia are not yet available for sale because the offering plan is still being considered by the office of the New York State Attorney General.

The developers, however, were allowed to test the market by placing a small sign advertising the renovation on the scaffolding of the building three weeks ago.

Since then, Mr. Preiss said, more than 400 inquiries have been received. ''People really want to live on the West Side,'' he said. ''It's a very strong market.''

* Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company

[AtlanticaC5]

Such a lovely building! Never noticed it before :)

[Alonzo-ny]

may i

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/218/492614926_7387f5bf7d_b.jpg

[Punzie]

Jackson Heights Historical District?

Oyyy... you probably want more than that!

Street address on door is 32-51. Northern Blvd is really 33rd Ave in Jackson Heights & Woodside. Ergo, street is between 32nd Ave. & Northern.

#51 indicates that the properties are practically on top of Northern.

Also, this is an even-numbered street, because those go 1-way from north to south. (This only applies to Jackson Heights.)

If the house or buildings surrounding it have names, I don't know them. If you want any more, I'll have to start cheating!

[Alonzo-ny]

The borough is right but not jackson heights.

It is between 33rd ave and another ave though! keep guessing!

[Alonzo-ny]

Ill take it this was too hard.

It is on 33rd street between 34 and broadway in astoria
It is not my home, but i live just on the corner.

[NoyokA]

Yeah, Queens tends to stump people.


Here's a fun one.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9060/doy2la8.jpg

[clubBR]

The peacock at Central Park Zoo

[Punzie]

Ill take it this was too hard.
It wasn't too hard; I had too much attention deficit...:o

For me, it was a literal toss-up between Jackson Heights and Astoria. I chose JH first because of the uncluttered "skyline" -- and because it has a greater West-East span than Astoria. (Tilting the odds, lol.)

Then I left the topic for 6 days, concentrating my attention on the news forum... I really must start subscribing to threads!


It's just as well that I wasn't here to give the answer, because I probably would have chosen another overly-politically correct place as the next location.:D

[NoyokA]

The peacock at Central Park Zoo

It is a peacock but it wasn't taken at a zoo.

[BrooklynRider]

Is the peacock one of the ones at Cathedral of St. John The Divine?

[NoyokA]

Brooklyn's got it.

Here's an albino peacock that was also on the grounds:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6716/peacockwo4.jpg

I'm wondering if anyone knows the backstory with these peacocks?

[Punzie]

Article:
Tails of the city


http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/cns/2002-02-22/images/peacocks2.jpg

PHOTO: Jennifer Weil
One of the two peacocks living at the Cathedral Church
of St. John the Divine in New York City.

By Jennifer Weil
2/22/02

Car horns blared and ambulance sirens shrilled, but the two peacocks parading through the gardens at the Cathedral Church of St. John the Divine were unfazed as they continued to peck and preen.

"It's a beauty seeing them over there," said Linda Burnett, a home health aide, who comes to the cathedral to sit and relax during lunch. "They are beautiful birds and they are friendly."

Peacocks, whose trains of iridescent green blue tail feathers are marked with eyelike spots, have been at home in the cathedral's gardens for the past 18 years. Native to Asia, they have survived fire and sickness and endured encounters with dogs while living in this urban environment.

St. John the Divine, on Amsterdam Avenue and 112th Street in Manhattan, perhaps best known for its annual Blessing of the Animals, began its peacock tradition in 1973, when four peachicks were presented as a gift to the Very Rev. James Parks Morton after he was installed as dean of the cathedral.

"We got a call from the Philadelphia Zoo saying, 'We are going to have a bumper crop of peacocks; would you like some?'" Morton said.

He accepted without hesitation. A couple months later, the peachicks -- Matthew, Martha, Luke and Joan -- arrived.

"They looked like tiny chickens," said Morton, now the president of the Interfaith Center of New York. "Baby peacocks are very uninteresting. They don't get their beautiful plumage until they're full grown." And then, only the males do.

The four peachicks were confined to a small pen, built by cathedral's maintenance department, until they were big enough to wander through the tree- and shrub-lined gardens on the 13-acre complex.

"They just walked around," Morton said. "They slept in trees -- that's what peacocks do -- on the low-lying branches. Usually in the winter, they slept in the garage on the heat pipes."

By the summer of 1984, only two peacocks were left. One disappeared (more on that later); another was killed by a dog.

But a veterinarian at the Bronx Zoo offered to replace them. Soon after, the cathedral had three 6-week-old peachicks.

Mary Bloom, the cathedral's photographer in residence, kept the peachicks in her kitchen where they followed her everywhere. (Bloom said she never named the peachicks because she could not determine their sex when they were young.)

As the peachicks grew, they were moved to an outdoor pen so they could become familiar with the sights and the sounds of the city.

"They were from the Bronx, so they were used to it," Bloom said. "But this was like the countryside to them."

A few months later, the peacocks were freed.

"I got scared to death," Bloom said. "I thought that they were going to get smashed by a bus."

That never happened, but three peacocks have died, two of natural causes and one from an infection.

The two remaining peacocks live a pampered life. When they can't bask in the sun, they can retreat to a heated cage in the cathedral's garage and munch on game-bird food and cracked corn. If pigeons try to steal their food, the peacocks respond by cawing and fanning their multicolored feathers.

"People love them," Ray Guyette, facilities director at the cathedral, said. "You can walk up and feed them."

While the peacocks mostly stay within the grounds, they have been known to go on excursions.

"We would have calls every now and then from someone saying, 'We have one of your peacocks over on Broadway,' " Morton said. "So we would march over to Broadway and there was a peacock and we would bring him back."

One peacock did not leave on its own volition.

"Someone called us and said, 'There is a man walking down the street with a peacock under his arm,' " Morton said. "And so we went down and said, 'That's our peacock,' and he gave him over."

And the one that disappeared? It was right before Thanksgiving one year. "I am sure it ended up in some Thanksgiving pot," Morton said. "I don't know who ate it, but somebody did. After Thanksgiving we had three as opposed to four."

Bloom said she believes that there is a higher reason that the peacocks usually stay close to the cathedral.

"Not going to Morningside Park, not going to Riverside Park, not going to Central Park, but choosing to live on the grounds of the cathedral," she said, "it makes me feel that they understand that there is a connection between them and our creator. It makes me feel that they understand that that's a holy ground. Thirteen acres: that's a special place, and they know that."

http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/cns/2002-02-22/77.asp

[ZippyTheChimp]

It's Fleet Week.

Guess the aircraft.
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6774/guess36dq4.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guess36dq4.jpg)

[Jasonik]

The lead plane is a P-51 Mustang
At the bottom of the frame w/ the mouth is a P-40 Warhawk
At the top of the frame is a P-47 Thunderbolt
Trailing is an F4-U Corsair

(I built a lot of model planes as a kid.) :)

[ZippyTheChimp]

I thought the Jug would be a stumper.

Couldn't find a Hellcat.

[Jasonik]

It was, I had to look it up.

[Jasonik]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jasonik/P7160173.jpg

[BPC]

palisades

[Jasonik]

What lookout?

[NYatKNIGHT]

Rockefeller

[Jasonik]

Combined win BPC and NYatKNIGHT.

http://www.njpalisades.org/overlooks.htm

[ManhattanKnight]

Guess this one (should be easy):

[BPC]

Combined win BPC and NYatKNIGHT.

http://www.njpalisades.org/overlooks.htm

Cool. I think I am going to check that one out this weekend.

[ManhattanKnight]

Time for a clue, apparently . . .

[ZippyTheChimp]

I didn't realize there was an active puzzle.

Brooklyn cruise ship pier.

[BrooklynRider]

It's really hard to see (pic is small). Is it the sanitation pier at 60th Street / West Street?

[ManhattanKnight]

Zippy's got it (again). The photo was captured from the QUEEN MARY 2 BRIDGE CAM (http://cunard.com/bridgecam/qm2_cam1.asp) when the ship was in port last week preparing for a voyage to the Bahamas:

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7319/24may2007jq9.jpg

(The cam obviously doesn't have GPS.)

She's back at sea today, due in Brooklyn tomorrow morning:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4206/28may2007uw1.jpg

The structure shown in the photo is the "Rent Me" building located at the south end of the Cruise Ship Terminal parking lot:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7227/forrentbd4.jpg

[ZippyTheChimp]

What is it? Where is it?

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7656/guess34cp5.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guess34cp5.jpg)

[ManhattanKnight]

It looks like the business end of a Nike Ajax anti-aircraft missile, but the location stumps me (doesn't appear to be the one on display at Fort Tilden).

[ZippyTheChimp]

Yes it is. Just a new fence.

The fort hospital is now the NPS visitor center.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5806/gnra30wf7.th.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gnra30wf7.jpg)

[ZippyTheChimp]

Guess the location

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2685/guess37we7.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guess37we7.jpg)

[Punzie]

Looks Otternass-ish- you know, emerging from the ground...
But I'm pretty familiar with his older works and I don't recognize it.:o

[ZippyTheChimp]

She's been gone for quite a while.

[Punzie]

Hmm... Greek mythological figures leaving fountains...

Hebe left Tompkins Square fountain...

Can't remember where the female dracon dwelled.:o

[ZippyTheChimp]

He's been away too.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7001/guess37anz4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[smith.nyc212]

Shoot! I was trying so hard to guess those-
may i suggest an easier one?? more recognizable one- like the apple store, perhaps?
:D

[NoyokA]

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5545/guessqn0.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guessqn0.jpg)

[NoyokA]

Anyone?

[BPC]

Can we have a little more of the building?

[NoyokA]

Here's a signature element of the building with a context clue.
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3387/guess2jm2.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guess2jm2.jpg)

[BrooklynRider]

Long Island Railroad somewhere in Queens.

[NoyokA]

Long Island Railroad somewhere in Queens.

No and no. Just to clarify its the same building that I posted earlier, just another part of it.

[ManhattanKnight]

Woodhull Medical & Mental Health Care Center
Brooklyn

(distinctive Maspeth gas tanks in the distance)

[NoyokA]

ManhattanKnight got it!

I was trying to stump him without having to give the second clue.

It is the Woodhull Medical and Mental Health Center. There’s something that I really like about this building, its overbearing, its industrial, it has a strong structural expression, its complex and it’s bold, it’s beautiful like an engine block, its many working pieces all seem to work together. Its also number 13 on the list of 30 under 30 buildings to watch for as future landmarks, right behind the Citicorp Center.

http://www.kmwarch.com/images/6916_e06.jpg

[Punzie]

Guess the location:

She and the dude could have been sculpted by Maillol. I recall that he did nude nymphs/women and beautiful nude lovers, (not Greek), but I was thrown off because I don't associate him with fantasy creatures like sea serpents.

If it happens to be Maillol, then the sculptures are about a century old and worth a great deal. They're probably too valuable to ever display in running NYC fountains in the future.

If it's Maillol, my best guess for the original location is the old Moma. If that's wrong, maybe they were once at the Met or the old Bethesda fountain.

But it could also be the Bronx. I remember from the 1960s-70s that the Bronx also had old, valuable sculptures that looked like these out in their many public fountains. Due to the draught and the fiscal crisis, the fountains were hardly ever running, and I didn't pay much attention to sculptures in dry fountains.

Zippy, I give up!

[ZippyTheChimp]

Two new additions to an old fountain, sculpted and cast from original drawings.

Not in Manhattan.

[Punzie]

I'm totally stumped, would have to start cheating to get it... maybe look up all the fountains in the outer boroughs and match the backdrops.:D

Anybody here know more about nude sculptures than I do?

[ZippyTheChimp]

Clue

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/8636/guess37bab5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[AmeriKenArtist]

Very nice sculpture!

[BrooklynRider]

New ride at Disney's Hurricane Katrina Waterpark?

[ZippyTheChimp]

I forgot all about this thread.

It's at the library.

[lofter1]

Does that mean ^^^ anyone is free now to post a new one?

(Seems like we've all been stumped by this one.)

[ZippyTheChimp]

The restored Fountain of Life at the NYBG Mertz Library.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9045/nybg66xc0.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nybg66xc0.jpg) http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2585/nybg65lr2.th.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nybg65lr2.jpg)

[lofter1]

Is the open book on the rim of the fountain part of the sculpture?

[ZippyTheChimp]

The bronze book is a 2005 dedication plaque sculpted by Stephen Doyle.

http://www.traditional-building.com/3-fount.htm

[lofter1]

Gotta love that ^^^

Brilliant touch http://wirednewyork.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif .

[Jasonik]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jasonik/crop.jpg

[Alonzo-ny]

Cooper Union?

[ManhattanKnight]

You are joshing, no?

http://blog.themonkeygoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/cooperunion.jpg

[lofter1]

That was quick :cool:

How about another ...

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[ManhattanKnight]

Seriously, Jasonik, thanks for reviving the game and welcome aboard . . . .

[Jasonik]

I thought it was easy, but not that easy. I'll get some stumpers this weekend. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jasonik/Cu.jpg

http://www.trussel.com/cooper/cu02.jpg

http://www.trussel.com/cooper/cu03.jpg

Look at the rich commercial life. I mean, where can you get ass-ware these days?

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This is the current puzzler courtesy of Lofter1:

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5394&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1198214314

[lofter1]

It's a shame that the Cooper Union staircase along Astor Place (visible in the older pics) has been blocked off.

[BrooklynRider]

Is it an old public bathhouse?

[ablarc]

That building sure has been botched over the years.

[lofter1]

Is it an old public bathhouse?

So Greek (http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861739697/thermo-.html) ^ of you :cool:

Too much so ...

Here's a bit of a wider shot:

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[BrooklynRider]

Is it an iron building?

[lofter1]

It has a steel frame but a masonry facade (with some cast iron detailing, but not alot) ...

DOB says 11 stories, 111 feet tall ...

Sometimes the shadow of NYC's tallest comes very close. But not sure that shadow ever actually touches this one.

[Radiohead]

452 Fifth Avenue??

http://www.facademd.com/graphics/452-Fifth-Avenue-002.jpg

[BrooklynRider]

Pentagon Company office building on Fifth and 25th (across from Grand Madison)?

[lofter1]

No and No ...

But the mystery building is in between those two --

6 blocks away from one and 9 blocks from the other.

[BrooklynRider]

Is it the old NY Globe(?) building. I think it is at 5th Ave & 37th diagonally south of Lord & Taylor.

[Jasonik]

Thermos Building
35 West 31st Street
A. N. Allen, 1903

Opposite the Hadson Hotel (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=hadsonhotel-newyorkcity-ny-usa).

[lofter1]

That's the one (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=35west31street-newyorkcity-ny-usa) ^ Just east of Sixth Avenue.

Built in 1905.

Curious, Jasonik ... How did you find it?

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[BrooklynRider]

I'm curious too. I googled "Thermos Building" a couple of times and came up with nothing.

[Jasonik]

Google (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22thermos+building%22+manhattan&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8), and a verification from Google Maps Street View (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&rls=en&q=35+West+31st+Street&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wl).

Of course I had already read the history of the American Thermos Bottle Company (http://www.kitchenkapers.com/hisofthercom.html) and some Times archived articles about the 1910 move (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=980CE4DC133EE733A25752C3A9649D94 6897D6CF) from Brooklyn to Manhattan and the 1913 fire in the leased factory (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9507E3DC103BE633A25751C0A9639C94 6296D6CF).

The world really is at our fingertips.

GUESS THE LOCATION:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jasonik/DSC00707.jpg

[Jasonik]

Built 1891-2.

[Fahzee]

one more hint?

[lofter1]

Carnegie Hall?

[BrooklynRider]

That library on 2nd Avenue by St. Marks? Muelenberg?

[lofter1]

That library on 2nd Avenue by St. Marks? Muelenberg?


I think you mean ^ the Ottendorfer Branch (http://www.nyc-architecture.com/LES/LES019.htm).

That was my thought, as well ... but it's too early (1884).

[Jasonik]

It has a landmarked door.

[Jasonik]

...err... paint-job on the door.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jasonik/DSC00707.jpg

[Fahzee]

it's not Joseph Papp, right?

[Jasonik]

Right, it's not. (http://www.nyu.edu/classes/finearts/nyc/eastvil/astor.html)

The door paint-job dates to 1976.

[Jasonik]

In the (wild) West Village.

[BrooklynRider]

Jefferson Market?

[Jasonik]

No, but it is within the scope of this photo.

http://www.thevillager.com/villager_39/court.jpg

[Jasonik]

This is the LAST hint.

The pub at the end of Perry St. in this photo (http://www.pbase.com/image/91892869.jpg) serves as the "unofficial home"

(photo credit Krulltime)

[NYatKNIGHT]

FDNY Squad 18.

[Jasonik]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jasonik/DSC00705.jpg?t=1201204255

A door closeup here (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=309829630&size=l&context=set-72157594327712026) from tom_hoboken on flickr.

[NYatKNIGHT]

Only your last clue led me to it. That door really should have been enough. Good one, Jasonik.

[brianac]

NYatKNIGHT, I think it's your turn to post the next location.

I don't have much chance of getting the answer but I do enjoy this thread.

[ManhattanKnight]

Brianac --

Actually, once a location has been correctly identified, anyone (not just the "winner" of the last round) is free (but has no obligation) to start a new round. Please see the discussion of this issue centered on Post 480 in this thread.

[brianac]

-^^^-

Thanks ManhattanKnight.

[Jasonik]

Though the courtesy is properly extended to the winner for first crack, in this case he has undeniably relinquished the privilege.

[NYatKNIGHT]

Though the courtesy is properly extended to the winner for first crack, in this case he has undeniably relinquished the privilege.Yes, and besides, I need a new camera.

Sorry Punzie, proceed!

[pianoman11686]

CW Post campus?

[Fahzee]

^ I don't think it's post - I don't remember the buildings looking like that.

But it's definitely NOT in one of the 5 boroughs, right?

and it's not Pace. or Stony Brook (I don't think).

hint please!

[NoyokA]

I could've sworn I've seen that before. I think its somewhere on the Queens or Brooklyn and LI border.

[Fahzee]

it's gotta be a college campus, right?

[lammius]

CSI (College of Staten Island) ???

[Radiohead]

Lammius must be busy, so here's another one

You guys are pretty good, so no clues at first.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3246/2317336255_4d856c8056_o.jpg

[Radiohead]

Either this was too hard, or nobody is looking at this thread. Here's a full picture; It's located on Manhattan island.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/2375525907_818ce78e1d_o.jpg

[lofter1]

Highbridge?

[NYatKNIGHT]

Yes, that's it. First photo was strangely deceiving. Good one, radiohead.

[Fahzee]

for some reason the Cupola looked wooden (and painted white) in the first photo, which had me searching flikr for Staten Island and Queens farmhouse photos :)

[Radiohead]

You got it Lofter. I guess it's your turn to stump us.

FYI, more on Highbridge here:

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/STREET%20SCENES/HIGH%20BRIDGE/highbr.html

[lofter1]

I'll take the bait ...

What + where :confused:

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[JCMAN320]

Is it the City Bank Farmers Trust Company Building @ 22 Williams Street by Cross & Cross Architects (aka 20 Exchange Place), and is the symbol one that relates to Agriculture along with the other symbols representing Architecture, Engineering, Mechanics, and Navigation.

[BrooklynRider]

A ceiling piece?

[lofter1]

No.

and ...

No.

[lofter1]

"who" is also very interesting ...

[The Benniest]

Something on a wall?

:D

[lofter1]

OK ^

And the wall is found at ... :confused:

[lofter1]

A couple more (many are found at the site) ...

***

[lofter1]

The image shown below is not from the same site as the images from the "guess" location,
but one could say that the folks depicted are all related -- or even brothers & sisters --
as they share a parent (of sorts) ...

http://www.deadprogrammer.com/photos/radio-city-music-rondel-1.jpg

[BrooklynRider]

Okay, are we at a theater? Is it at Rock Center?

City Center?

At first I thought it was a post office or court building.

[lofter1]

As I wrote: That last image isn't from the "guess the location" building :cool:

But, yes, the last image is a rondel from Rockefeller Center, executed in enameled metal. It depicts "Drama" and can be seen on the 50th Street facade of Radio City Music Hall.

A little bit of genealogical research might lead back to the site of "guess the location" ...

[Radiohead]

I agree with BR it must be some type of theatre given the last picture. Which one, I'm still unsure.

[lofter1]

The last picture is NOT from the "Guess the Location" site ('tis a clue).

Another clue ...

If you happened to be looking at the image below you could see the "Guess the Location" building if you were to look to the south (across the pond, as it were) ...

***

[Radiohead]

Is it at the Dept of Health Bldg at Lafayette & Worth?

[ZippyTheChimp]

Lofter, your clues suck. :p

[lofter1]

:confused: ^ Seemed this one was languishing. So I did everything but supply a map :cool:.

Ding! Ding! Ding! And the winner is ...




Is it at the Dept of Health Bldg at Lafayette & Worth?


This is one of those great government-built Art Deco buildings that we're lucky to have (aka "City of New York Building"; more info at EMPORIS (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=cityofnewyorkbuilding-newyorkcity-ny-usa)). The architect is Charles B. Myers (http://www.emporis.com/en/cd/cm/?id=charlesbmeyers-newyorkcity-ny-usa), but the real star here is Oscar Bach (http://www.oscarbach.org/nyc_health.htm), who did the metalwork (as well as the metalwork at Rock Center and any other number of places around NYC and beyond). The lobby has some magnificent touches, but all is somewhat off limits -- particularly to those with a camera.

Health Building (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/html/resources/man_healthbuilding.shtml)
Date Built: 1932-1935
Architect: Charles B. Meyers

The Health Building occupies the entire block bordered by Worth, Centre, Leonard and Lafayette Streets. In addition to the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene and the Health and Hospitals Corporation, it also houses the Sanitation Department.


The beautiful Art Deco building was designed by Charles B. Meyers. Construction began in 1932 and was completed in 1935, at a cost of $5,500,000. The front and side entrances have bronze grillwork and other metal design, including medallions with health themes. They were designed by Oscar Bach whose New York City studios also produced custom metal work for the Woolworth, Chrysler, and Empire State buildings, as well as Riverside Church and Temple Emanuel-El.

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[lofter1]

Department of Health Building:

Charles B. Meyers / Oscar Bach

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Federal%20Plaza/Department%20of%20Health%20Bldg/NYCDOH_02d.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Federal%20Plaza/Department%20of%20Health%20Bldg/NYCDOH_02f.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Federal%20Plaza/Department%20of%20Health%20Bldg/NYCDOH_02k.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Federal%20Plaza/Department%20of%20Health%20Bldg/NYCDOH_02m.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Federal%20Plaza/Department%20of%20Health%20Bldg/NYCDOH_02o.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Federal%20Plaza/Department%20of%20Health%20Bldg/NYCDOH_02p.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Federal%20Plaza/Department%20of%20Health%20Bldg/NYCDOH_02q.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Federal%20Plaza/Department%20of%20Health%20Bldg/NYCDOH_02g.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Federal%20Plaza/Department%20of%20Health%20Bldg/NYCDOH_02i.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Federal%20Plaza/Department%20of%20Health%20Bldg/NYCDOH_02u.jpg

More info on Oscar Bach (http://www.oscarbach.org/) ...

Colored Steel

Time Magazine (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,761091,00.html)
Monday, Apr. 17, 1939

When Oscar Bruno Bach was 18 he made a finely wrought metal Bible cover for Pope Leo XIII's study. A native of Germany but a longtime resident of Manhattan, Oscar B. Bach is, according to the current Iron Age, "probably the foremost metal craftsman of this country." He has done a great deal of impressive metal decoration for public buildings, rich men's homes, ships, mausoleums, world's fairs. Last week bemonocled, pipe-sucking Mr. Bach discussed with newshawks a metallurgical process which he had developed (after years of research), and which not only delivers stainless steel in a variety of colors but also increases greatly the corrosion resistance of inexpensive chrome steel.

Metallurgists have tried to produce colored stainless steel for years. One of the first patents, issued to Columbia University's crack Electrochemist Colin Garfield Fink in 1933, has never been industrially developed. Researchers of Allegheny-Ludlum Steel Corp. are reported to have hit on a promising technique, but they are keeping it under wraps for the present. Mr. Bach, skeptical of patent protection, kept mum about his method for quite a while.

In the Bach process, the steel is first "pickled" (cleaned with acid), then coated with colorless chemicals (formula undisclosed) and heated. The coated steel turns black, gold, bronze, purple, blue, red or green, and the color becomes an integral part of the surface. The treatment increases the corrosion resistance of 6% chrome steel (16¾¢ per Ib.) almost to that of high-grade chrome-nickel stainless steel (34¢ per lb.). Said Iron Age: "The increase in corrosion resistance, in part verified by at least several disinterested laboratories, is astonishing." Last week Mr. Bach declared that use of cheap steel, thus colored and corrosion-proofed would greatly reduce the cost of prefabricated houses.


***

Oscar Bach Dead;
Metallurgist, 72

New York Times (http://www.oscarbach.org/resource.htm) (May 1957)


Creator of Plaques on R.C.A. Building Has Ornamented Bible Given to Leo XIII


Oscar Bruno Bach, metallurgist and designer, whose work adorns the exteriors and interiors of many buildings in New York and other cities, died yesterday in Mount Sinai Hospital after a brief illness. His age was 72.


Mr. Bach, who was known for metal sculpture in the Rockefeller Center area, maintained a studio in La Maison Francaise, 610 Fifth Avenue. His residence was at 962 Fifth Avenue.


Eighteen years ago, Mr. Bach developed a process for giving color, corrosive and abrasive resistance to ferrous metals. Many examples of this work have been used on the exteriors of buildings.


Beside huge plaques on the RCA Building, Mr. Bach's designs are on the Empire State Building, The Airlines Building, 80 East Forty-second Street, the Bank of the Manhattan Company (now Chase Manhattan) at 40 Wall Street and the New York Trust Company Building at 100 Broadway.


Did Work for Ships


His earlier work included metal designs for the United States Lines ships Washington and Manhattan. His interior designs are to be found in Riverside Church, Yale University, The Toledo (Ohio) Museum of Art and other museums.


Mr. Bach's metal-designing also has a practical turn, which was developed through his association with Remington-Rand, Inc.; Manning, Bowman & Co.; the Edward Budd Manufacturing Company, Oneida, Ltd. the Baldwin Locomotive Works, the American Radiator Company and the Tappan Stove Company. He maintained his own laboratory and also was president of the Oscar B. Bach Studios, Inc.


Born in Breslau, Germany, Mr. Bach studied at the Catholic Higher Gymnasium there from 1890 to 1898. He continued his studies at the Imperial Academy of Art in Berlin until 1902. At the age of 20 he began his career as a designer of metallic architecture and sculpture in Berlin, mostly for the German, British and Italian Governments.


Designed Bible for Pope


One of his early commissions was to design an ornamental Bible for the British Government, for presentation to Pope Leo XIII. It has become one of the treasures of the Vatican Museum, with its metal binding encrusted with jewels and precious stones.


Mr. Bach came to the United States in 1913 and became a citizen thirteen years later.


One of the outstanding sculptures is the eleven foot bronze statue "The Spirit of Democracy" designed in 1939. It is on the seventh floor terrace of the building in which Mr. Bach's studio is located.


Mr. Bach received the gold medal for native industrial design and craftsmanship from the Architectural League of New York.


Surviving is his widow, Pauline.


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[ZippyTheChimp]

^
Just having a little fun with this one; I wanted to see how the clues played out. I already knew the connection with Oscar Bach.

See the last photo:
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?p=59833

[Radiohead]

^Interesting stuff, & great pics Zippy.

OK, this may be too easy for some. Architecturally it may not be much; more known for what it once housed.

What and where?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/2411233018_8403180894_o.jpg

[brianac]

^
Just having a little fun with this one; I wanted to see how the clues played out. I already knew the connection with Oscar Bach.

See the last photo:
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?p=59833

Thanks for the link ^^^ Zippy, I had not seen these 2005 photographs of yours before.

[BrooklynRider]

Cbgb

[Radiohead]

You got it. Good eye BR.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/2414800997_4a5887c045_o.jpg

Just another night at the club circa 1976: Look close for David Johansen, Joey Ramone, & Jimmy Destri (Blondie).
http://www.bobgruen.com/files/cbgb/R.230%20CBGB%20HANGING%20OUTSIDE.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/IMPO/MR850~The-Ramones-CBGB-s-Posters.jpg

And home of probably the most disgusting bathroom in NYC.
http://static.flickr.com/29/43544272_ae66b362ba.jpg

So long CBGB's.

[lofter1]

Then /\

And Now \/

CBGB regulars not as upset as Tonic regulars (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/04/cbgb_regulars_n.html)

some of them anyway....

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music2/varvatosparty.jpg

The VH1 Save The Music benefit party (http://www.vh1.com/partners/save_the_music/what_is_going_on/major_events.html) you heard John Varvatos talk about on Fox (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/04/john_varvatos_d.html)
is now (unfortunately?) sold out.

The cast of characters playing/appearing at this thing make it look like
it could have been one of the 2005 'Save CBGB (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2005/08/blondie_cbgb_ra.html)' lineups, or even one of
the final shows (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2006/10/patti_smith_fle.html) the venue hosted before being shut down (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2006/11/the_dismantling.html).

I wonder what Jesse Malin thinks of Rebecca Moore's efforts (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/04/the_cbgb_protes.html).
He probably saw her sitting there (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/04/john_varvatos_s.html) on his way over to his new bar (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/04/jesse_malin_hif.html).

***

Now (Almost) Open: John Varvatos
Lords Over the New Bowery

RACKED (http://racked.com/archives/2008/04/04/opening_tomorrow_john_varvatos.php?o=0)
April 4, 2008
by Rebecca

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/2160/2387099209_a672dcedca_o.jpg
John Varvatos' awning darkens the Bowery

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/2160/2387099209_3ed6b31940_s.jpg (http://racked.com/archives/2008/04/04/opening_tomorrow_john_varvatos.php?o=0).....http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/2076/2387099239_f90211f749_s.jpg (http://racked.com/archives/2008/04/04/opening_tomorrow_john_varvatos.php?o=1).....http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/2204/2387929982_1a545324c7_s.jpg (http://racked.com/archives/2008/04/04/opening_tomorrow_john_varvatos.php?o=2).....http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/2119/2387930042_6db110c514_s.jpg (http://racked.com/archives/2008/04/04/opening_tomorrow_john_varvatos.php?o=3)

Tomorrow's going to be a big day for the Bowery. The John Varvatos boutique
going up in the former CBGB's space at no. 315, which didn't appear anywhere
close to being done one month ago (http://racked.com/archives/2008/03/04/_john_varvatos_the_old.php), is in fact opening in less than 24 hours' time.
Construction and design teams must have been working round-the-clock.

This morning, the awning went up and the windows have been revealed.
The interior looks dark and a little foreboding, perhaps in homage to the
space's gritty past and the punks who once performed here. Red glowing
church candles are positioned next to racks of vintage vinyl to the right, and
spectacular black and white photographs of rock gods are framed on the left
wall of the store. A gigantic Statue of Liberty stands in the left front
window—an interesting touch that got the attention of many passers-by.

The clothes will likely play second fiddle to the major decor inside. We'll have
to get a look at them tomorrow: According to the hulking security man at the
door, the store is scheduled to open officially at noon. There is currently,
however, a flurry of activity at the space as staff buzzes around and folks of
the Bowery Mission altercate outside. Rock 'n Roll!

· Varvatoswire (http://racked.com/archives/2008/04/01/varvatoswire.php) [Racked]
· John Varvatos Scraps CBGB's Squalid Remains (http://racked.com/archives/2008/03/04/_john_varvatos_the_old.php) [Racked]
· John Varvatos' PR Team Officially Announces CBGB's Takeover (http://racked.com/archives/2007/11/06/rip_cbgb_john_varvatos_makes_i.php) [Racked]
· Practically Confirmed: John Varvatos Moving Into CBGB Space (http://racked.com/archives/2007/10/22/practically_confirmed_john_var.php) [Racked]
· The Old Bowery's Dead, Long Live The New "West Village-ized" Bowery (http://racked.com/archives/2007/08/29/the_bowerys_dead_long_live_the.php) [Racked]

cbgb

[ZippyTheChimp]

Time to revive the thread.

What's the building?

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2499/guess38mm0.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guess38mm0.jpg)

[ManhattanKnight]

Entrance, orig. Irving Trust Co. building, Broadway & Wall Street (now Bank of NY).

[ZippyTheChimp]

Jesus H Christ

[AmeriKenArtist]

Jesus H Christ

Is that H for ..."HolyCOW!!"
(Rizzuto-style)

[Alonzo-ny]

First building that came to mind.

[BrooklynRider]

The windows are distinct and the red mosaic tile gives it away.

[ZippyTheChimp]

Guess the building.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/687/guess39wh9.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guess39wh9.jpg)

[Alonzo-ny]

Your house?

[ablarc]

Some beautiful ironwork; and the building's not too bad either, with its riffs on orthodox Doric. Does an artist live here?

[ZippyTheChimp]

Ironwork was a bone of contention with LPC.

There's a somewhat geographic connection to artists.

[ablarc]

What happened to the pic?

[ManhattanKnight]

Pavilion on the Terrace (catering hall and whatever), Sailor's Snug Harbor, Staten Island (1835), showing controversial Czech neo-Grecque fence.

[ablarc]

^ Shoulda known, though I've never been to Snug Harbor. All that Doric.

Seems to me, though, that this building must have been re-done at some point in its history. Its detailing is too improvisational to seem authentically 19th Century. If it is, the architect was an adventurer in uncharted waters.

Fence is just fine, maybe even inspired in its context.

[ZippyTheChimp]

I read somewhere that originally, the colonnade extended on three sides. It's the only survivor of four (or five) houses that were the originals in the planned community, New Brighton, which is now part of the St George historic district. Such an upscale village became possible with the advent of steam-powered ferries.

Mr Czech had a habit of not consulting LPC with his renovations. Once, a telco representative asked him if he wanted a pay phone installed on the sidewalk in front of the building. He said OK, not realizing that it wasn't just the building that was landmarked.

I took a breezy ferry ride yesterday to escape the heat and meet a few friends for lunch. Took a walk west on Richmond Terrace to snap that picture. There's more, but wasn't going to slog up that hill on a steamy day.

Some stuff:
http://www.preserve.org/stgeorge/stgeorgedistrict.htm

Snug Harbor (http://www.snug-harbor.org/index.html)

[ManhattanKnight]

^Christopher Gray discusses this building's history (including the fence -- "a massive hand-forged iron fence with a linden leaf motif on the front . . . hardly Greek Revival [but] a handsome piece of metalwork, intricately sinuous, like a work by the Barcelona architect Antonio Gaudi") in a 2002 Times article (Streetscapes/Staten Island; An 1835 Greek Revival Mansion on the North Shore (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06EEDF1731F930A35750C0A9649C8B 63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all)).

[professionalx]

Anyone going to post a new Guess the Location?

[Ninjahedge]

I woudl volunteer one, but I have not gotten anything right, so......

[asg]

I hope that ^ is not a requirement.
Though I haven't looked through this thread in a long time, I'll try to post one. Hopefully, it will take more than 11 seconds for someone to guess it.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3152/2979676855_e36510f8f0.jpg

[asg]

Time for a hint... I was eating lunch at a Hale and Hearty's when I took that picture.

[BrooklynRider]

Hmmm. New sidwalk, curb, and the street ready for repaving....

[lofter1]

... I was eating lunch at a Hale and Hearty's when I took that picture.


Lots more of those in Manhattan (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22+Hale+and+Hearty%22+%22New+York%22&fb=1&t=h&z=12) than I'd have guessed.

[Matthie]

International Telephone and Telgraph Building. The picture is taken in Beaver Street.

[Matthie]

New one:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4926/p080tr3.jpg

[BrooklynRider]

That's the little corner in Chinatown off of Mott Street (South of the church). A right on to that street takes you to the park (across from the Foley Courthouse). The corner is best known for the little kiosk that bakes/fried little round chinese pastries that are covered in powdered sugar (like chinese Zeppoles).

Am I right?

[Matthie]

You're definitely right! That's Mosco Street.

You mean that Chinese dumpling place?

[asg]

International Telephone and Telgraph Building. The picture is taken in Beaver Street.


The entrance is for the John Heuss House, 42 Beaver St. http://www.trinitywallstreet.org/outreach/?jhh I didn't realize that it is in the Telegraph building - thanks!

[econ_tim]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3339/3202986927_e9d668628c_b.jpg

[Ninjahedge]

Hell?

Is that Hell?

Or is that just Hell's waiting room....?

[lofter1]

It's a set from a Kubrick film ...

[scumonkey]

The back entrance to this?!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Cinderella_Castle.jpg/479px-Cinderella_Castle.jpg

[Ninjahedge]

It's a set from a Kubrick film ...

Welley welley welley well then!!!!!

[Jasonik]

It looks like it could be an American version of the Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuol_Sleng_Genocide_Museum), a high school turned prison camp turned museum of atrocities.

[econ_tim]

First hint: it's in Manhattan.

[BrooklynRider]

School in East Village?

[econ_tim]

You're on the right track. It used to be a school, but it's not in the East Village (or West Village for that matter).

[BPC]

It's the abandoned P.S. 186 at 145th Street between Broadway and Amsterdam Avenue, owned by a pro bono client of mine, the M.L Wilson Boys and Girls Club (which plans to do great things with the property, fyi). What do I win?

[econ_tim]

BPC,

Good guess. I looked up your building on Google maps, and it has the same general shape as this one. Still not right, but getting closer.

[Three Chord Monty]

East Harlem? Around 99th/100th, 1st/2nd Aves?

[econ_tim]

Bingo!

[Three Chord Monty]

Okay...I'm new here, and I've read the last 10 pages of this thread & now I'm working my way through the first 35, so please bear with me if I'm breaking any protocol here. I can always substitute something else, though I'm sure you guys have tons of stuff too.

This is Manhattan.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i185/mindgonehaywire/IMGP29051.jpg

[Matthie]

Since it takes almost half a year to guess the current location I think it's a good idea to give some kind of a hint.

[BrooklynRider]

East of Broadway in Nolita. Great Jones Street.

or... Tribeca

[NYatKNIGHT]

There's another old storefront that says "TWINES" on it in Soho on Spring St., though it's very faded, so that's not it. But maybe this is nearby....?

[lofter1]

70 Thomas Street (http://curbed.com/marketplace/properties/703) (between Church + W Bway) in Tribeca

MAP (http://maps.google.com/?q=70%20Thomas%20Street,%2010013&z=15)

[lofter1]

I guess it's my turn to keep y'all guessing

No clues yet ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WNY%20Guess%20The%20Location/WNY_M158_01.jpg

G'Luck!

[ZippyTheChimp]

You chiseled a self-portrait on the front of your building?

[lofter1]

Actually it could be said to be on the BACK of the building (the lot goes through a full block, from midpoint on a main thoroughfare west to a less-traveled street).

And, though I'm flattered that you think me so distinguished, it ain't me.

It seems this guy is a loner as he's the sole inhabitant of this particular facade.

[lofter1]

A bit more detail ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WNY%20Guess%20The%20Location/WNY_M158_02.jpg

:cool:

[lofter1]

A former building on the site was a referred to as a temple to various artistic endeavors.

The existing building (where our bearded mystery can be seen) is now home to a famous rocker, who can't really complain about loneliness or other miseries in his airy abode.

[lofter1]

Geez, nobody is even trying ...

A wider shot:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WNY%20Guess%20The%20Location/WNY_M158_11.jpg

At one point, decades ago, there was a fire station located in a building across the street.

[stache]

I'm guessing somewhere around Union Sq.

[lofter1]

If you're in Poughkeepsie I'd say, relatively, you're getting close.

If you're in Manhattan I'd say you need to move south.

[BrooklynRider]

The Cable Building on Broadway & Houston?

[lofter1]

Close. Go about 1/2 block south ...

This should give it away:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WNY%20Guess%20The%20Location/WNY_M158_07.jpg

[ZippyTheChimp]

Geez, nobody is even trying ...You gotta pick stuff that makes people think, "I've seen that, but where?"

[lofter1]

And here I was thinking Jon Bon Jovi was a regular at WNY ...

Stupid me.

[Ninjahedge]

I detect a CLUE!!!


We are not all that anchor guy from Fox 5 morning news show thinger there Loft. We don't all know a building from its window casement!!! ;)

(Well, MOST of us don't, anyway)

[BrooklynRider]

Is this on Crosby Street? The back of a Broadway building? The shutters are definitely not on Broadway.

[lofter1]

Not on Crosby. But it does front onto Broadway. This is the "back" side, and faces onto the street in the other direction from Crosby. Go south from the Cable Building. Look up to find Jon Bon Jovi.

Any more clues and I might as well publish the address :cool:

Until then I'll show you a wider shot ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WNY%20Guess%20The%20Location/WNY_M158_12.jpg

Across the street you once could see this:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WNY%20Guess%20The%20Location/WNY_M127_01b.jpg

Before our mystery building went up the Broadway side of the site once looked like this ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WNY%20Guess%20The%20Location/photographic.jpg

[hbcat]

photo of the Temple can be found here:

http://www.archives.gov/research/american-cities/images/american-cities-054.jpg

[hbcat]

According to,
Encyclopedia of nineteenth-century photography, Volume 1

By John Hannavy

Frederick's Photographic Temple of Art was located at 585-587 Broadway.

Does that help? Hmmmmmm?

[hbcat]

Mercer...

[lofter1]

The prize goes to hbcat (who, based on prior practices, gets first option on posting the next "Guess the Location" entry).

The address on the door below the carved face is 158 Mercer. It is the residential entry to 583-587 Broadway, formerly the home to the New Museum of Contemporary Art which has moved to new digs (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3624&) at 235 Bowery.

Frederick's Photographic Temple of Art (http://theboweryboys.blogspot.com/2009/07/broadway-snapshot-photography-temple-of.html) opened in the 1850s. The current building (http://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/26/realestate/lofts-above-museum-below.html), built between 1895 - 1897, was designed by Cleverdon and Putzel (who designed, among other projects, a great row of Romanesque row houses (http://www.nyc-architecture.com/HAR/HAR032.htm) up in Harlem).

The Penthouse there is now the home to Jon Bon Jovi, a spacious abode (http://curbed.com/archives/2007/03/22/floorporn_jon_bon_sohos_26_million_penthouse.php) that was picked up in 2007 for ~ $26M.

The old Fireman's Hall (Fire Headquarters (http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/state/fire/41-50/ch43pt1.html)) sat across Mercer at Number 155 Mercer. It was built in 1853 (http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/f_a/l20.shtml) and was (the last volunteer firehouse to be built in the city (http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/18983)).

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158 Mercer

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585-587 Broadway

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[hbcat]

Wooo-hoooo!!! Yippee!! I won, I won, I won! I never win anything -- except for nerdy, academic things. Oh, wait -- is this another nerdy academic thing? Drats.

Lofter1 -- Thanks for filling me in on the game etiquette, but can I pass my turn back to you? According to Google"s distance calculator I am currently 7905 miles from Manhattan, and don"t have your apparent store of great pics to share.

Cheers,
hbcat

[lofter1]

Since hbcat has declined it seems the floor is open to whoever wants to jump in with the next brain twister.

[lofter1]

I am currently 7905 miles from Manhattan ...


Where U at?

[hbcat]

Where U at?

Taiwan. See my blog.

[lofter1]

Aha -- You can add that to your profile so it shows up in the upper right hand corner of posts ................ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[hbcat]

Done. Thanks for the tip. ^^^^

OK, since I am not providing the next subject for the search, can I request one? My research touches upon nineteenth-century topics, and Broadway comes into the mix. Can we have another one around (not necessarily on) lower Broadway?

Otherwise -- any "Guess the Location" is fine -- not for me to dictate your selections. :D

[BrooklynRider]

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/BrooklynRiderRob/quiz.jpg

[hbcat]

Could this be a detail from the U.S. Custom"s House?

[hbcat]

OK, that's ^ got to be wrong. The image depicts the NYC official seal in use between 1915 and 1977 (when the date was changed from 1644 to 1625). I remain stumped though.

[BrooklynRider]

Not the Customs House. This building is further north.

The timeline of the seal's dates of use does contain the date the building was constructed.

[hbcat]

Looks Beaux-Arts, but I can't pin it down in the 1915-1977. How about another hint. Are we correct to assume it is a city building with that seal tattooed on its side?

[BrooklynRider]

It is a city institution and has served the general public faithfully. No restrictions for fokls to enter - no metal detectors or bag searches - nothing.

[hbcat]

^^^ That sounds like the NYPL, but the main Library building pre-dates the seal. Is this another library building I don't know about?

[BrooklynRider]

It isn't a library. It serves the public welfare. It is located below 42nd Street.

[BrooklynRider]

Ok. We've all given up.

It is the historic Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital on 1st Avenue

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/BrooklynRiderRob/DSCN1095.jpg

[hbcat]

Is this the view zooming out a bit? I wasn't expecting the brickwork.

[Pic deleted. The above photo wasn't posted when I added one of the same building.]

[ZippyTheChimp]

The Bellevue Psychiactric Hospital was one of the location shoots for Billy Wilder's classic The Lost Weekend (http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/l/lostweekend.html). The alcoholic Don Birnam (Ray Milland) wakes up in the hospital's "hangover plaza" ward.

[BrooklynRider]

Was my clue too generic?

[lofter1]

Perhaps not cryptic enough ...

[hbcat]

Was my clue too generic?

BR,

I am still not able to place the building by date. According to this, Bellevue was founded in 1736, but I don't see anything in the timeline which notes a major building constructed between 1915 and 1977:

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Bellevue_Hospital_Center#1.

Nice choice of a historic site though.

hb

[lofter1]

A NY Magazine article from 2008 (Checkout Time at the Asylum (http://nymag.com/news/features/52176/)) says the Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital building on First Avenue is 78 years old, built in 1931:


... the Bellevue of our shared imagination—the nuthouse, the punch line, the must-to-avoid vacation spot—is something else entirely. And at least in one sense, it’s about to go away. Although Bellevue’s mental-health treatment center will continue to operate at full strength, this spring, the city’s Economic Development Corporation announced its intention to offer up the building that, for more than half of the last century, was Bellevue. Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital, the Bellevue that for 78 years has stood, gloomy and gated, on 30th and First, the Bellevue made infamous in movies and nightmares, the forbidding destination for so many celebrated and notorious New Yorkers that it stands as a chilling landmark: the Chelsea Hotel of the mad.

... these days, it resembles nothing so much as a haunted house that has tried its best to cheer up and smile. Built in 1931 by Charles B. Meyers, an architect who seems to have specialized in places you don’t want to be (he also helped design the Criminal Courts Building on Centre Street), it’s nine stories of red brick with a perimeter of grass and, on two sides, a low wall topped with tall, spiked wrought-iron fences that look like they were designed to reassure local residents that nobody was getting out.

... It seems unlikely that anybody would be sorry to see the words “Psychiatric Hospital” chipped off the northern entrance of its old quarters. And while the EDC’s plan to turn Bellevue into the latest in luxe accommodations has occasioned a certain number of jokes about the Sid Vicious Suite (yes, he’s an alum) and the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Casualty Atrium, those memories aren’t likely to have much traction. After all, nobody is more expert at eradicating swaths of urban history with great dispatch and little sentimentality than a real-estate developer.

[hbcat]

Nice article, lofter. I had no idea.

[lofter1]

Well written, eh?

There's a million stories in the Naked City.

[asg]

Taking a different approach - instead of starting with a small detail, I'll post the entire image. Hopefully the location is obscure enough to garner a few guesses.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/3032971206_a337f4435d_b.jpg

[BrooklynRider]

It looks like it is a street going into the exit lanes of the Battery Tunnel. That looks like the parking garage in the background on the right side. What Street is that? Rector? Thames?

[ZippyTheChimp]

^
I recognized this one immediately.

You pretty much got it, BR. Broadway looking west down Morris St toward Greenwich St.

[Taz]

I was going to say, somewhere way downtown on Broadway. I wasn't sure exactly where since I don't really pay attention to streets that far down. I just look for landmarks :)


^
I recognized this one immediately.

You pretty much got it, BR. Broadway looking west down Morris St toward Greenwich St.

[Ninjahedge]

Try this one if you want (unless I already submitted it)

11218

[LeCom]

The High Line, eh?

New Jersey's in the background...

[Ninjahedge]

Yep, try and narrow it down a bit though. I am not looking for a street, but maybe a general area... (And then submit your own. Good call on the HL!)

[Matthie]

An old picture of Little West 12th Street ???

[Ninjahedge]

It has been a while, i will have to look it up, but it is somewhere below 16th I believe, in what was the meat packing district. (now the "meat packing district" ;) )

Either of you feel free to post the next location. It has been a while....

[ZippyTheChimp]

Tsk Tsk.

Your turn to post the next question, Matthie.

[Matthie]

14410

[ZippyTheChimp]

I know this spot.

[Matthie]

No one is even trying to guess...

Small hint: if you look at the shape of the buildings you can determine the angle of the street behind it.

[ZippyTheChimp]

It's an old photo. There's a food market there now.

[Ninjahedge]

It looks like it is down by the Holland tunnel.....

[Matthie]

ZippyTheChimp: You're right! I only want to know the exact intersection.

[ZippyTheChimp]

I've known all along where it is. I'm just trying to avoid having to come up with the next puzzle. :p

[Matthie]

Haha ... hopefully someone else knows it too!