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Merry
May 9th, 2009, 12:26 AM
I'm sure most people would prefer to pay their way as best they can, but this seems harsh and, indeed, counter-productive. The expected rents are unreasonably high IMO.

This comment just doesn't seem to make any sense:


“I don’t see this playing out in an adverse way. Our objective is not for families to remain in shelter. Our objective is to move families back into their own homes and into the community.”


May 9, 2009

New York Charges Rent for Working Homeless

By JULIE BOSMAN (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/julie_bosman/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and ANDY NEWMAN (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/n/andy_newman/index.html?inline=nyt-per)

The Bloomberg administration has quietly begun charging rent to homeless families who live in publicly run shelters but have income from jobs.

The new policy is based on a 1997 state law that was not enforced until last week, when shelter operators across the city began requiring residents to pay a certain portion of their income. The amount varies based on factors that include family size and what shelter is being used, but should not exceed 50 percent of a family’s income, a state official said.

Vanessa Dacosta, who earns $8.40 an hour as a cashier at Sbarro, received a notice under her door several weeks ago informing her that she had to give $336 of her approximately $800 per month in wages to the Clinton Family Inn, a shelter in Hell’s Kitchen where she has lived since March.

“It’s not right,” said Ms. Dacosta, a single mother of a 2-year-old who said she spends nearly $100 a week on child care. “I pay my baby sitter, I buy diapers, and I’m trying to save money so I can get out of here. I don’t want to be in the shelter forever.”

City officials said the new rent requirement had been in the works since a 2007 state audit that forced them to pay back $2.4 million in state housing aid that should have been covered by homeless families with income. They argued that homeless people with income should be expected to pay for a portion of their shelter costs, a model that echoes the federal Section 8 housing voucher program.

“I think it’s hard to argue that families that can contribute to their shelter cost shouldn’t,” Robert V. Hess, the city’s commissioner of homeless services, said in a telephone interview Friday. “I don’t see this playing out in an adverse way. Our objective is not for families to remain in shelter. Our objective is to move families back into their own homes and into the community.”

It is unclear why the state law has not been enforced until now. New York’s situation is unusual, with far more working homeless families than elsewhere in the state, and higher housing costs than virtually anywhere in the country.

Anthony Farmer, a spokesman for the State Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance (http://www.otda.state.ny.us/main/), said the new policy will eventually affect about 2,000 of the more than 9,000 families in New York City shelters. More than 500 families have been informed that they were expected to begin paying rent on May 1.

City officials said they started with families who are new to shelters, and would phase in the new approach over the next several months, including for people who are on welfare and are also working. They could not yet estimate how much it would raise.

A flier posted in one shelter last week warned residents in bold, underlined type, “Failure to make the required contributions could result in the loss of your family’s temporary housing.”

But advocates for the homeless said the new policy was punitive and counterproductive, and some shelter residents, in protest, have already refused to sign the documents acknowledging receipt of the rent notifications.

“Families have been told to pay up or get out,” said Steven Banks, the attorney in chief for the Legal Aid Society. “The policy is poorly conceived, but even more alarmingly, it’s being poorly executed. What is happening is that we have seen cases of families being unilaterally told, without any notice of how the rent was calculated, that they must pay certain amounts of rent or leave the shelter. We’ve already had a case of a survivor of domestic violence who was actually locked out of her room.”

Mr. Hess acknowledged that if a family does not pay the required rent, it could be told to leave the shelter, but he noted that residents can contest the rent required through a state hearing.

Ms. Dacosta, for one, said she had spoken with her caseworker and demanded a hearing. Martha Gonzalez, who is 49 and lives with her 19-year-old son in a rundown shelter in Fort Greene, Brooklyn, said she was informed last week that she owes $1,099 in monthly rent on a $1,700 monthly income as a security guard in Midtown. She said she planned to contest the rent demand in court.

City officials did not immediately respond to Ms. Gonzalez’s assertion that her rent would exceed half of her income.

Patrick Markee, the senior policy analyst of the Coalition for the Homeless (http://www.coalitionforthehomeless.org/), called the policy “impractical,” arguing that most working people who live in homeless shelters earn low wages and would be better off saving for a place of their own. “It’s going to make families stay in shelter longer because they’ll have fewer financial resources,” he said.

“They are taking money from them that could otherwise be used to help themselves get out of the shelter system,” agreed Arnold S. Cohen, the president and chief executive of the Partnership for the Homeless (http://www.partnershipforthehomeless.org/home.php5). “We’re dealing with the poorest people, the people who are the most in need, and we’re asking them to pay for a shelter of last resort. As a city and a state that has a history of social and economic justice, I think we can do better than that.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/09/nyregion/09shelters.html?ref=nyregion

philvia
May 9th, 2009, 01:17 PM
makes sense to me.. though i agree that the rents are a little high

User Name
May 9th, 2009, 02:51 PM
Maybe some of these people should try to find better jobs.

$800 a month is below starvation wages - anywhere in America.

Ninjahedge
May 11th, 2009, 09:55 AM
It is a fine line, but rewarding people for doing next to nothing never helps.

Punishing them for doing something does not help either. The rates seem a little high compared to the wages though.

Merry
August 2nd, 2009, 04:41 AM
Change of tack?


New York Sends Homeless Out Of the City To Stay With Relatives

Mayor Bloomberg has solved his financial and homeless problem; give them one-way tickets out of the city or the nation to stay with relatives.

Since Mayor of New York City Michael Bloomberg began his tenure he promised to address the problem of homelessness in the city. Now the Bloomberg administration has found out a way to save the city money and solve the issue: giving them one-way tickets to any location.

The destinations vary from Paris to Johannesburg and are put on New Yorkers’ tab. Since 2007, more than 550 families have been flown out of the city. This new structure is to help keep them out of the shelter system, which costs the city $36,000 per year per family.

Many of the homeless people are original New Yorkers who fell upon hard times and sought any shelter’s help however, some of them are non-New Yorkers who are very happy to be out of the city, according to one man, Hector Correa who was shipped back home to Puerto Rico, “I didn’t expect the city to be the way it is. I was expecting something different, something better.”

The Correa family moved to New York in May in the hope to find a better life but instead they could not find work nor pay their bills. They looked for help through the shelter and one of the counsellors told Mr. Correa that he could move back to Puerto Rico at no cost, “The person I spoke to in the shelter informed me that if I have a person I could stay with in Puerto Rico, that I could get help to go. I feel very happy because I’m going to be able to get back to do the things that I know how to do.”

New York City uses a domestic travel agency, Austin Travel, to book one-way tickets for travel within the United States. Employees of The Department of Homeless arrange all international travel.

The plan, which costs the city $500,000, provides travel for families anywhere in the world. In one case, a family with three children received a flight to Paris, which cost $6,332. This new type of system can also provide up to four months of rent, if it is deemed necessary.

The Director of the Resource Room, Vida Chavez-Downes, told the New York Times, “We want to divert as many families as we can that need assistance. We have paid for visas, we’ve gone down to the consulate, we’ve provided letters, we’ve paid for passports for people to go. Anyone who comes through our door.”

Other states, like Hawaii, have rejected plans to send their homeless away on one-way ticketed flights.

Arnold S. Cohen, the President and Chief Executive of the Partnership for the Homeless, is critical of this new implementation by saying it does not help the origin of the underlying problem, “The city is engaged in cosmetics. We’re taking people from a shelter bed here to the living room couch of another family. Essentially, this family is still homeless.”

City officials have confirmed that none of the families who received help from New York and relocated to another destination have returned to a shelter.

It seems the Mayor must have used the joke, "Take my homeless, please!"

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/276828